Name: Marker Duke PT 12
Brand: Marker
SKU: 6390d5035bce2619b19cb5de
Rating: 4.0 (14 reviews)

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Choose this binding for optimized downhill performance, but do so with caution. As it pertains to inherently compromised backcountry ski bindings, we can seldom make absolute claims. However, we can definitely assert that the Marker Duke PT is the best skiing binding that can also tour. Aside from minor points, the Duke PT skis as well as basic to above average resort bindings. We can say that about few to no other backcountry products. 
That, though, is where the applause ends. To get that downhill performance, the Duke PT is too heavy and complicated to compete on any level with actual touring bindings. The Duke PT is literally 7x the weight of the lightest binding we tested &#40;and 12x the weight of lightest options on the market!&#41; For all that weight, you might get downhill performance that is 2x the light options. That's tough math to reconcile. Basically, these bindings are for resort &#40;or other mechanized ascent, i.e., helicopter or snowcat&#41; skiing that may involve only short ascents. "Regular" backcountry skiing is best done with regular and much lighter backcountry ski bindings. 

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 So we have a perfect compromise between downhill performance and releasing safety and uphill capability with the pins. So Max, is this your final solution for the one binding to go up upwards, skiing downhill fast and hard? It is the answer to it, this is the perfect binding, the final binding. It doesn't get any better than this in terms of hybrid free ride bindings. What's the weight of the 12 and the 16? So we have 1150 for the smaller version and then reduced if you take the tow part off you save 300 grams so you are at around 850 uphill and for the 16 version we have 1350 and then a bit over 1 kilogram if you have the tow removed

 It doesn't get any better than this in terms of hybrid free ride bindings. What's the weight of the 12 and the 16? So we have 1150 for the smaller version and then reduced if you take the tow part off you save 300 grams so you are at around 850 uphill and for the 16 version we have 1350 and then a bit over 1 kilogram if you have the tow removed. What about child diseases, bindings coming, some defect in the beginning, are you anticipating that? The good thing is that we took a heel that is trusted in the market so we really had to just think of the tow and then what we did is we combined our knowledge from developing the alpinist tow and the gesture tow and then just combined it. So we didn't really have to come up with a completely new concept so we are just combining the strengths we have already

 War, binding war. This time it's Marker throwing a jab at the Salomon Shift with the new Duke PT, a solid binding up to DIN 16 set up to take you up the mountain as well as downwards in a safe manner. Come have a closer look folks. Hi guys, it's Max from Marker and I'll talk you through about our new Duke PT binding

IS MARKER DUKE PT BETTER THAN SALOMON SHIFT?

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 There are, of course, a few trade-offs and the first of that being, it is pretty heavy, coming in at a weight of 1 350 grams for this full setup, and, secondly, some people might not like the removal of this tow unit as it's one more thing that Can get lost and if you're, without this in the back country, then you're going to be in a bit of trouble. If you do decide to go for the market, pt 16, then you're gon na be rewarded with one of the highest performance touring bindings out there. Yeah there are a few trade-offs, but if you're happy to live with those, then aggressive free ride skiers are that one step closer to the holy grail for touring by nyx, hey everyone, and thanks so much for checking out our ski 100 quickfire reviews. If you'd like to see any more information on the product that we've just reviewed, then head down to the pink comment, where you'll see a link for the in-depth review and, of course, if you're not already, then be sure to like and subscribe to our channel

Marker Duke PT 16 Quickfire Review | Ski Touring Binding

I would recommend looking at a binding like the fritschi tecton or even a 50/50 binding like a Salomon shift or even a marker duke pt 12. They are going to be heavier than the alpinist but they will also be more enjoyable to ski on days you are riding chair lifts.

Hello,

TLDR: Looking to transition from piste to off-piste with touring, short skier, confused about gear length and what to buy.

I am very confused about the length selection of skis. I read the resources linked but it seems like the length selection varies significantly depending on the ski profile. I am 155 cm and 50 kgs, so quite small. I have been primarily skiing on piste for the past 25 years, nothing serious, mostly reds with occasional black runs. So far, I have been a recreational skiier with many good on-piste ski options.

Last year, I got a pair of Nordica Ace Juniors at 146 cm basically for free and have been skiing with them on piste last year and this season, I don't quite enjoy them on piste tbh, they feel a bit unstable but not too bad, just iffy. Outside of piste (previously skied track but still kinda soft snow) they felt very good. And I have no idea why tbh.

So now I am looking to get into skiing off-piste, taking several safety courses and touring training etc. However, I can't seem to decide on what gear I need to buy. I want a pair of all-mountain tourable skis which I can also use to ski off-piste close to resorts which will likely be soft snow (but potentially someone will have skied there already), current conditions are 70 cm in base and 125 cm in the mountain, which is a bit more than expected for this time of the year but pretty typical for the season overall. The mountains are not very high (all below 3000ms), so the temperature fluctuates quite a bit, causing icy patches etc.

So I am basically looking for all-mountain skis, that can double for touring in these mountain conditions. I have been looking at Salomon XDR 79s at 160 cms, as they are stated 50/50 for piste and powder and I have been reading longer skis are more stable generally but I am not even sure if they would be suitable for touring bindings or whether they would be ok at that length? I am also looking to buy Maker Alpinist touring bindings for reference and I have Tecnica Cochise 105 W boots for touring.

In general, as a 155 cm skier, what would be the length range I should be looking at all mountain rocker-camber-rocker profile all mountain skis? And what is the waist range I am looking for? &gt;75 mm up to 95?

Thanks in advance for the help.

<div class="md">Hello,

TLDR: Looking to transition from piste to off-piste with touring, short skier, confused about gear length and what to buy.

I am very confused about the length selection of skis. I read the resources linked but it seems like the length selection varies significantly depending on the ski profile. I am 155 cm and 50 kgs, so quite small. I have been primarily skiing on piste for the past 25 years, nothing serious, mostly reds with occasional black runs. So far, I have been a recreational skiier with many good on-piste ski options.

Last year, I got a pair of Nordica Ace Juniors at 146 cm basically for free and have been skiing with them on piste last year and this season, I don&#39;t quite enjoy them on piste tbh, they feel a bit unstable but not too bad, just iffy. Outside of piste (previously skied track but still kinda soft snow) they felt very good. And I have no idea why tbh.

So now I am looking to get into skiing off-piste, taking several safety courses and touring training etc. However, I can&#39;t seem to decide on what gear I need to buy. I want a pair of all-mountain tourable skis which I can also use to ski off-piste close to resorts which will likely be soft snow (but potentially someone will have skied there already), current conditions are 70 cm in base and 125 cm in the mountain, which is a bit more than expected for this time of the year but pretty typical for the season overall. The mountains are not very high (all below 3000ms), so the temperature fluctuates quite a bit, causing icy patches etc.

So I am basically looking for all-mountain skis, that can double for touring in these mountain conditions. I have been looking at Salomon XDR 79s at 160 cms, as they are stated 50/50 for piste and powder and I have been reading longer skis are more stable generally but I am not even sure if they would be suitable for touring bindings or whether they would be ok at that length? I am also looking to buy Maker Alpinist touring bindings for reference and I have Tecnica Cochise 105 W boots for touring.

In general, as a 155 cm skier, what would be the length range I should be looking at all mountain rocker-camber-rocker profile all mountain skis? And what is the waist range I am looking for? &gt;75 mm up to 95?

Thanks in advance for the help.
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Confused About Ski Length &amp; Is This Ski Ok For What I Need?

 Our pair is coming in an average weight of thirteen hundred and eighty-three grams per ski or per binding. So it's definitely on the heavier end of the spectrum, still lighter than some of the frame bindings out there and way nicer to tour in because you get a tech toe, but it's definitely not a light binding. So when you want to go uphill, you can take off this Alpine toe piece which, on ours, is measuring in around 310 grams per Alpine toe piece, and that leaves you with the weight on your ski being about a thousand and seventy three grams. So you can save a bit of weight

 Alright, so just a few quick highlights for reference. We have the Duke PT 16 mounted with brakes for the vocal blaze 106 in ski mode, with everything on there, including Alpine tow piece. Our pair is coming in an average weight of thirteen hundred and eighty-three grams per ski or per binding. So it's definitely on the heavier end of the spectrum, still lighter than some of the frame bindings out there and way nicer to tour in because you get a tech toe, but it's definitely not a light binding

Marker Duke PT

 I just toured up in this tech. Binding fully tech - and now I have this really locked down sense of confidence to go rip, and you know it's great. We had soft snow to test it in yeah. There'S some hot spots underneath, but I felt like you know Alpine set up, so I mean I think the big takeaway is, if you're looking for an 80 binding, but you you really really really value strong downhill performance

 This is this is a really really really good option now I think it's important to compare it to other bindings and and what I'm doing in my head is kind of drawing a spectrum from kingpin 13, which is already more binding so to speak. Then then, your traditional text fit in bindings, but if you start up the kingpin 13 and then draw a spectrum going through the shift and then up to this, this Duke PT 16 - that that's the that's how I'm thinking of it. You know the kingpin kind of leans they're. All all three of those bindings are designed to do a little bit of everything

 This chat super easy to take them off and super easy to put them back on to so I don't see any downside to take them off. I'M thinking once you put it like you, take it off. It'S obviously you're like oh wow. This is super simple, like yeah, anybody can do it like

 You can tell somebody on the phone how to do it. You could like yeah many. It'S just easy. It'S really simple

Marker Duke PT Alpine Touring Binding Review

Looking for some help on an 80/20 resort to touring ski. I know there are a lot of opinions on if that should even be a thing and that I should have a dedicated touring setup and dedicated alpine setup, open to hearing that too - tell me if this would not be the best set up to spend money on. 

&amp;#x200B;

**About Me:**

* 5\`10"
* 175lbs
* Comfortable on all groomers, take my time in the black glades
* Live in New England, have a Colorado and Tahoe trip planned this upcoming season, then will be moving to Colorado for a year (would love to take these new skis out west)

&amp;#x200B;

**Current Skis:**

* 2017 Volkl RTM 81 Skis with Marker iPT Wide Ride XL 12.0
* Would like to keep, but if it would make sense to sell this ski and go for something a little wider underfoot that could work in New England and Colorado that is dedicated alpine and getting a touring set up down the line, I would be open to that too (feel free to recommend skis). I just feel like there is a lot of back and forth on the feasibility of using a hybrid binding primarily inbounds.

&amp;#x200B;

**What I'm looking for:**

* 80/20 resort to touring ski - I've gone uphill at a few resorts and enjoy the workout and idea of getting fresh tracks
   * I plan to take the avalanche courses and continuing the uphill on the resort for the time being
* Something more playful than the RTMs
* Can take it when I am out west for a year as my daily driver and with me this year

&amp;#x200B;

**Binding Options:**

* Duke PT 12
* Salmon Shift MNC 13

&amp;#x200B;

**Ski Options**

* 2023 Salmon QST 98
* 2023 Bent 100 (posted about these before and most people said no go for the ice coast, but went to a local shop today and one of the guys said he loved the ski for out here)
* 2022 Black Crow Navis Freebird

<div class="md">Looking for some help on an 80/20 resort to touring ski. I know there are a lot of opinions on if that should even be a thing and that I should have a dedicated touring setup and dedicated alpine setup, open to hearing that too - tell me if this would not be the best set up to spend money on. 

&#x200B;

About Me:

<ul>
<li>5`10&quot;</li>
<li>175lbs</li>
<li>Comfortable on all groomers, take my time in the black glades</li>
<li>Live in New England, have a Colorado and Tahoe trip planned this upcoming season, then will be moving to Colorado for a year (would love to take these new skis out west)</li>
</ul>

&#x200B;

Current Skis:

<ul>
<li>2017 Volkl RTM 81 Skis with Marker iPT Wide Ride XL 12.0</li>
<li>Would like to keep, but if it would make sense to sell this ski and go for something a little wider underfoot that could work in New England and Colorado that is dedicated alpine and getting a touring set up down the line, I would be open to that too (feel free to recommend skis). I just feel like there is a lot of back and forth on the feasibility of using a hybrid binding primarily inbounds.</li>
</ul>

&#x200B;

What I&#39;m looking for:

<ul>
<li>80/20 resort to touring ski - I&#39;ve gone uphill at a few resorts and enjoy the workout and idea of getting fresh tracks

<ul>
<li>I plan to take the avalanche courses and continuing the uphill on the resort for the time being</li>
</ul></li>
<li>Something more playful than the RTMs</li>
<li>Can take it when I am out west for a year as my daily driver and with me this year</li>
</ul>

&#x200B;

Binding Options:

<ul>
<li>Duke PT 12</li>
<li>Salmon Shift MNC 13</li>
</ul>

&#x200B;

Ski Options

<ul>
<li>2023 Salmon QST 98</li>
<li>2023 Bent 100 (posted about these before and most people said no go for the ice coast, but went to a local shop today and one of the guys said he loved the ski for out here)</li>
<li>2022 Black Crow Navis Freebird</li>
</ul>
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New Ski Recommendation

 It'S actually heavier than then the shift is which makes sense. I think that that royal family heel piece is known to be fairly heavy and it looks like this binding is going to be pretty darn burly, so it is the heaviest so for comparison. A a kingpin. Thirteen comes in at 750 grams per binding

 So if you saw that I apologize, I was a little bit confused because binding companies list their their weights a little bit differently, whether it's per binding or per pair. So our apologies, so the the Duke PT, especially that 16 din-din version, is going to be the heaviest so it'll be interesting to see. If we get significant more or significantly more, you know stomp ability whether it feels feels more secure than the shift when you're, when you're locked in into downhill mode. So those will be all things that will we'll be testing once we get our hands on this binding

 It'S crazy windy out right now, so if we get lights flickering or if we lose lights entirely, I apologize we're not like 50 mile, an hour gusts going on out there there's also a they call it a lock and walk break. I assume this is going to function very similarly to how the shift, how you kind of step it down and lock the break up. I imagine it's going to be very similar to that. Let'S talk about weight so the way that this binding falls in with weight is kind of interesting

 Definitely let us know if you have any questions, we can answer all the questions that were able to and those that were unable to we can reach out to marker. We have good good contacts with marker, so yeah exciting new binding. It'S definitely cool to see this category of bindings grow and expand, and - and we will see you guys on the slopes awfully soon - I'm off to a free ski training camp this afternoon, so yeah we'll be skiing, seeing skiing soon and we'll see you on the slopes. Thanks guys, 

Marker Duke PT Hybrid Touring Binding Preview and First Impressions

I have a pair of Elan Ripstick black editions with the Marker Duke bindings - I love the setup and am a resort focused skier.

I’m looking for a ski that I can use with the cast free tour system to do it all. I want a playful-ish ski that can still hold an edge at speed. I used to have a pair of 2021 k2 poachers which I loved, and am looking for something similar, just longer and maybe a hair stiffer. Im thinking around 1900-2000ish grams and around 100ish mm waist and somewhere between 184-190 cm long. I’m a directional freeride skier and am looking for a ski I can tour out to the backcountry jump session on, or take on single day tours of moderate length, or rail turns on in the resort. I’m aware this isn’t the most efficient setup but I have been touring on much heavier skis and frame bindings the last few seasons and been very happy with the distances and frequencies with which I could tour. Currently I’m looking at:
 dynastar m 99 free  
J skis masterblaster 
Moment deathwish 104
Solomon qst

Any suggestions or input from owners of these skis would be greatly appreciated! How buttery are they? How carvey?

<div class="md">I’m looking for a ski that I can use with the cast free tour system to do it all. I want a playful-ish ski that can still hold an edge at speed. I used to have a pair of 2021 k2 poachers which I loved, and am looking for something similar, just longer and maybe a hair stiffer. Im thinking around 1900-2000ish grams and around 100ish mm waist and somewhere between 184-190 cm long. I’m a directional freeride skier and am looking for a ski I can tour out to the backcountry jump session on, or take on single day tours of moderate length, or rail turns on in the resort. I’m aware this isn’t the most efficient setup but I have been touring on much heavier skis and frame bindings the last few seasons and been very happy with the distances and frequencies with which I could tour. Currently I’m looking at:
 dynastar m 99 free 
J skis masterblaster 
Moment deathwish 104
Solomon qst

Any suggestions or input from owners of these skis would be greatly appreciated! How buttery are they? How carvey?
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