MSI Creator Z16

Agreed, though the lack of RJ-45 and soldered RAM break it even more (the latter is not black-and-white, however), this is a business laptop, and one that engineers look at. Also the keyboard... Currently the only keyboard layout that makes sense, in my opinion, is the Legion lineup's (full size, normal sized arrow keys that are placed in such a way that the user can easily differentiate between them and other keys), although a hybrid between that and the classic ThinkPad trackpad would be nice (as in, keys on top of the trackpad instead of underneath), though not an absolute requirement. It's a shame, I would have preferred a theoretical L16 without unnecessary soldered parts, however with the quality of the X lineup (no need for the thiness, the L-series is thin enough as it is) and optional (and removable, like in the P1) dGPU (a low power Radeon Pro or Quadro would have been good options) would have made a Z16 a proper laptop.

If you are into gaming, you will find better devices than the MSI with its RTX 3060 Here the Razer Blade 15 Advanced (Mid 2021) is at the top, but its screen is inferior on balance. The MacBook Pro 16 2021 is not an option for gaming, due to the available games as well as the weak GPU.The bottom line is that the Z16 is very good or at least well-served in every respect

I’d recommend the msi creator z16. It’s got most of the stuff you want with good battery life (around 17 hours depending on what you’re doing with it), touchscreen but I don’t think it has 360 degree rotation, and around 5 lbs. it can definitely play dota with no issues.

If you are into gaming, you will find better devices than the MSI with its RTX 3060 Here the Razer Blade 15 Advanced (Mid 2021) is at the top, but its screen is inferior on balance. The MacBook Pro 16 2021 is not an option for gaming, due to the available games as well as the weak GPU.The bottom line is that the Z16 is very good or at least well-served in every respect

Microsoft surface thing, MSI z16, aaaand this wired gross computers with 2 displays that Asus and the other r guy makes. Oh and the conceptd ezel. They all suck in their own way. No one cares about us touchscreen ppl.

Ultimately, the strongest argument in favor of buying the Creator Z16 is the power it packs into such a thin and attractive chassis. Many workstations of this size, including the Aero 15 and the XPS 17, are noticeably thicker — and the MacBook, which is similarly thin, is also significantly more expensive.

The Z16 offers two USB-C ports with Thunderbolt 4 support, two USB Type-A ports, and a micro SD card slot.

Comes with RTX3050 Ti, 2kg and all the ports you need. Not many options for a gaming laptop that’s able to flip in the market right now. If you need performance but don’t mind a screen that lies 180° instead of 360°, consider the MSI Creator lineup.